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Post by biobee on 18th January 2010, 2:29 pm

Hi all,
My main interest is 'natural beekeeping' and I hope some of you will think about taking up the art of bee-herding this year. I'm happy to offer what I can in the way of advice to those who do.

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Post by polgara on 18th January 2010, 2:41 pm

A big welcome :flower:
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Post by Wilhelm Von Rhomboid on 18th January 2010, 2:42 pm

Hi biobee, welcome aboard.

What exactly do you mean by 'natural beekeeping'?

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Post by Adrian on 18th January 2010, 3:02 pm

Welcome Boibee

Bees in my back 40 would be awesome, but not likely to happen this year unless I lease a spot in my back meadow to one of the local keepers


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Post by MrsC on 18th January 2010, 3:18 pm

Hi there biobee and welcome to the forum! :flower:

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Post by Compostwoman on 18th January 2010, 5:21 pm

Hurrah, hello biobee! Glad you could make it! Smile

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Post by AngelinaJellyBeana on 18th January 2010, 7:04 pm

Hello
I'll definitely be picking your brains. I'm very interested in starting beekeeping
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Post by chickenofthewoods on 18th January 2010, 7:30 pm

Hello and welcome. :flower:

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Post by biobee on 18th January 2010, 8:19 pm

Wilhelm Von Rhomboid wrote:Hi biobee, welcome aboard.

What exactly do you mean by 'natural beekeeping'?

Good question.

The name is, of course, a paradox, which a teacher of mine once defined as 'a truth standing on its head in order to draw attention to itself'.

Beekeeping is not a 'natural' activity, as bees are wild creatures and have no need of humans: mostly we just get in their way. 'Modern' (i.e. 19th century) beekeeping really gets in their way, with its rectangular frames and pre-cast foundation - and beekeepers who delight in shuffling their combs in all sorts of ways that the bees don't approve of.

'Natural beekeeping' is a movement towards providing homes for bees that don't get in their way, but instead offer opportunities to build comb as the bees choose.

We aim to:

- enable bees to build natural comb
- allow bees to find their own balance between drone and worker numbers
- interfere in their lives as little as possible, while recognizing that the act of 'beekeeping' is more than just 'bee having'
- avoid the use of synthetic chemicals and medications
- harvest only what the bees can afford to do without

That sort of thing.

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Post by Wilhelm Von Rhomboid on 18th January 2010, 8:55 pm

Hmmm, I guess that makes me a 'Modern' beekeeper then, although, square frames aside, I pretty much leave them to their own devices. Lesbian nudists sunbathing in the flightpath is the thing that gets in the way of our bees most. Actually no, I presume feeding them sugar is not part of the natural method either (the bees I mean, not the lesbian nudists).


Not that I disagree with your approach - we became beekeepers semi-by accident so just bumbled along with what we gleaned along the way, which I guess is more the conventional/modern method because that's what you pick up from books and internet etc.

Would be interested to hear some more about the theory and practice of natural keeping. Perhaps we could prevail upon you to do a little writeup at some point? Maybe even some pictures?

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Post by MrsNesbitt on 18th January 2010, 10:18 pm

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Post by LizzyLaneFarm on 19th January 2010, 12:54 am

Welcome,

This sounds very interesting, I will be waiting to hear more on this.

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Post by windymiller on 19th January 2010, 8:42 am

Welcome,

I have never heard of this either.
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Post by biobee on 19th January 2010, 11:19 am

Wilhelm Von Rhomboid wrote:Lesbian nudists sunbathing in the flightpath is the thing that gets in the way of our bees most.

Ah, that old problem! Very Happy

Actually no, I presume feeding them sugar is not part of the natural method either (the bees I mean, not the lesbian nudists).

We only feed sugar when necessary to avoid starvation. Having said that, pure, refined cane sugar is a reasonable approximation to nectar, so I don't think it does any real harm if used in moderation.

Would be interested to hear some more about the theory and practice of natural keeping. Perhaps we could prevail upon you to do a little writeup at some point? Maybe even some pictures?

I can do that. Meanwhile, there is a lot of free stuff on my site at www.biobees.com

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Post by Adrian on 19th January 2010, 11:30 am

This is really interesting, could you start a thread in the relevant section perhaps to continue?

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Post by vwalker99999 on 19th January 2010, 2:23 pm

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Post by biobee on 20th January 2010, 10:24 am

Thanks for the welcome, everyone. I will post something in the 'birds & bees' section.

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Post by Guest on 20th January 2010, 5:43 pm

Hi Biobee!
We are the opposite of Billy - when we intended to set up bee keeping it was a year when about half of all the colonies where lost in our area so there was no spare...so having a new approach is very interesting.

Hope to hear lots more bouncing

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Post by Nick B on 23rd January 2010, 1:44 pm

Hi Biobee and a very late but warm welcome to you.
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