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Post by Adrian on 7th November 2009, 11:21 pm

1.User Interaction:
Handmade life is a forum community which encourages the open discussion of amongst other things, green ecological, rural, downshifted and smallholding related topics:
1.1: Members and Guests are expected to treat each other with respect.
(Please note: Section 3.01)

1.02 : Actions intended to degrade the experience of other users are considered harassment and will not be tolerated.
(Please note: Section 3.01)

1.03 : If you are, or suspect you are being harassed, please contact Badger or one of the other Moderators immediately - do NOT retaliate or take any form of offensive action.
(Please note: Section 3.01)

1.04 : Accounts using a 'proxy', 'assumed name' or 'spoof'/fake email address, may be banned for no other reason than that.

1.05 : You are to register only one user account - i.e you are permitted one account only - you must not create further accounts with the purpose of gaining additional privileges or for any other reason.

1.06 : When choosing your user name for use, please be advised that confusion may arise amongst other members of the community if you pick a user name that gives no indication of gender. This is your privilege but we ask you to bear this in mind and to not take offense should someone incorrectly assume something such as gender identity.

1.07 : When choosing your user name, in addition to 1.06 (above) please note that offensive, racially discriminating (or racially offensive), pornographic or incitement user names are not permitted.

1.08 User 'signatures' :
You may add a signature to your profile, that will display on every message you post in the forums, however:
- At no time is a user 'signature' to exceed 2 lines of screen text
- Signatures must not contain advertising, defamatory, obscene, sexual or any other form of unacceptable content
- Signatures must not contain reference to commercial or profit making company/organization - this is strictly forbidden unless authorized, in writing by the administrative staff of Handmade life

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Content on Handmade life may be moderated for suitability, accuracy and ultimately, conformity with this AUCP.

2.01 : Please Do NOT email for technical support, ask in forums instead.

2.02 : Any post considered as "spam" will be deleted without question.

2.03 : If you cannot produce anything helpful or of value in a reply, don't post.

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2.06 : Intensive usage of uppercase or lowercase letters won't be tolerated - Please do not start any posting with all capital letters or by just using lowercase lettering

2.07 : Giving out the personal information of other users without their permission, will not be tolerated.

2.08 : This is an English Speaking Forum, please 'speak' in English unless otherwise warranted.

2.09 : 'Hate speech' is not permitted within the Handmade life community. Hate speech includes, but is not limited to, speech/jokes/articles which demeans specific groups of people on the basis of race, religion, ethnic background, nationality, disability, gender or sexual orientation.

2.10 : Pornography and sexual content of any description is not acceptable within the Handmade life community - no matter how innocent you believe it to be. We are not being prudish but we need to be aware that this is a multi-cultural community and as such, a 'generally acceptable' standard has to be maintained.
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2.11 : Sometimes, in the relevant forums, it is necessary to describe/discuss the nature, habits, methods and anatomical components of animal/livestock reproduction. Only correct, grammatical and dictionary approved terminology and anatomical definitions should be used, however, non-offensive euphemisms can be used. However, the use of vulgar slang or 'common vernacular' will not be tolerated (for the same reasons outlined in para. 2.12)

2.12 : You should exercise caution when giving out personal, identifiable, information - we suggest that you only do this via private message, to persons you have come to know and not via the public forums.

2.13 : At no time, should any 'generic' or personal emails be posted to any part of the website, this includes, but is not limited to ' virus warning', chain-type letters, public appeal notices or charitable requests - without prior authorization, in writing, by the administrative staff of Handmade life

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3. The 'Magpie' Effect:
3.1Part of what the Handmade life community is about, is the freedom to discuss controversial political and 'country' related issues & practices and we will do nothing to stop this, (in fact, we actively encourage it) however, it must be remembered that everyone is entitled to their own opinion and as long as conduct is cordial, should not make them a better or worse person, in the eyes of others.

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Any attack on our network infrastructure will be considered computer trespass and will result in an immediate ban from the site, reports to your network provider(s) and/or legal action. This includes but not limited to, any port scan/ICMP/FTP/Telnet attempts on our servers and/or systems.

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Use of the Handmade life services is a privilege granted to you, these are not rights. Violation of this AUCP may result in your removal from the site and/or loss of access privileges. Handmade life is a private system, provided as a public service, and your account may be terminated at any time, at the sole discretion of Handmade life's owners. Continuing to access, or attempting to access, after your access privileges have been terminated may be considered computer trespass.

6. Editorial Changes:
We reserve the right to edit any (and at any time) user contributions submitted to the site, this includes, but is not limited to Forums, Articles, Recipe Book, Links, Images etc. Edits will (in general) be made for the sake of grammatical clarity or typographical error correction only, we do not censor controversy unless, the content falls foul of any of the other sections of this policy. In the case of images, we reserve the right to, but not limited to, edit, crop & manipulate accordingly, to fit into the 'look and feel' of the site.

7. Copyright:
The Handmade life community is provided as a public service, where we encourage the sharing of 'free' knowledge and ideas, we therefore take it and you accept that, anything submitted to the Handmade life community is given in the form of 'conversation' or free speech. We therefore reserve the right to assume copyright on user contributions submitted, this includes, but is not limited to the Forums, Articles, Recipe Book, How To.. and other sections of the website.

7.01 : However, we will not assume copyright of private or commercial previously copyrighted material including, but not limited to, song lyrics, photographs, articles, recipes or published quotations/speech, unless we are specifically authorized to do so by the original copyright owner - where this ownership is not conferred, copyright remains with the original author.

7.02 : You are responsible for ascertaining and acknowledging credit for any song lyrics, photographs or published quotations that you may use as part of your submissions. If in doubt as to the copyright status of any material you are considering for submission, do not submit the material.

7.03 : You are not permitted to pass off, as your own work, work created by another. The submission of such material is in direct breech of the originators copyright and we will provide all assistance to that individual/organization possible to ensure that they are able to assert their rights.

8. Fit for Purpose:
Handmade life makes every effort to ensure that information placed within the content of the website is accurate, it does not give any warranty or representations, express or implied, about its accuracy, completeness, or appropriateness for a particular purpose.

You, the user who has access to this Website has to assume full responsibility for any outcome from using any information on this website, and that you accept that Handmade life will not be held liable for any action you take in reliance on information on this website.

By this, we mean that in no event shall Handmade life or it's owners or administrative staff be liable for any damages whatsoever, including (but not limited to) special, indirect, consequential or and other form of damages, arising out of or in connection with the use or performance of the content available or referred to on this website.

In particular:

The content of any (but not limited to) Chat or Forum areas including material placed by Handmade life users, those which are hosted by Handmade life or material on 'third-party' websites which are accessible by the use of related links within the site, over which, Handmade life has no control.

9. Indiscriminate and/or unsolicited advertising:


9.01 : At no time, and without exception shall any guest or member of Handmade life community, post advertising of any kind or for any purpose unless authorized in writing prior to posting, by the administrative staff of Handmade life

9.02 : At no time, and without exception shall any guest or member of Handmade life community include in any area of the Handmade life community, reference to any commercial venture of any kind or for any purpose to which the guest/member has an owing or personal interest, unless authorized in writing by the administrative staff of Handmade life

9.03 : At no time, and without exception shall any guest or member of Handmade life community use the Mail facility in relation to any commercial venture of any kind and for any purpose to which the guest/member has an owing or personal interest, unless authorized in writing by the administrative staff of Handmade life

10. Privacy:

We appreciate that some members of the forum may wish to preserve a degree of disguised identity - this in itself is fine but could potentially lead to the incorrect assumptions by other members of perhaps age group and gender if a none age or gender related user name is chosen.

We therefore ask members not to take offense should such a mistake be made by another member as a result of use of an unidentifiable user name One way that could alleviate this potential issue is for all members to complete the 'Gender' portion within their profile however, the choice remains that of each member."


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Post by MrsNesbitt on 10th November 2009, 11:41 am

Can I just say Thankyou to Badger for taking the time to put these rules together. It must have taken quite a lot of his valuable time, but it has been worthwhile and will lead to a good forum environment.

Thanks hun xxxx
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Post by windymiller on 10th November 2009, 5:48 pm

I second that Mrs N.
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Post by Compostwoman on 14th November 2009, 8:34 pm

Badger your rules are great, very clear and sensible and egalitarian :heart:

and they don't want to take away any ownership rights we have over our individual posts which I, for one, appreciate very much. Very Happy :heart:

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Post by Mike on 14th November 2009, 9:04 pm

Minor question on 9.01-9.03

Authors, if posting from already published books, should or should not provide the reference? (technically you are supposed to do that but could be interpreted as advertising the work).

ROFLOL -- not that writing poetry makes much money. I vaguely recall decades ago (so it would be several times more now) Penny receiving a check for something like $1.24 as her share of the royalties from an anthology that included some of her poems. But she does have two books published and every now and again enough comes in for a meal dining out.

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Post by Adrian on 14th November 2009, 9:44 pm

So long as work isn't passed off, then I am happy

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Post by Compostwoman on 16th November 2009, 10:11 am

Well...I can't spot any spelling corrections Badger..it looked pretty good to me in the first instance! :cheers: But the font is smaller...Laughing

Is there a prize for spotting the changes you have made? Laughing Wink

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Post by Hairyloon on 9th December 2009, 1:39 pm

compostwoman wrote:and they don't want to take away any ownership rights we have over our individual posts which I, for one, appreciate very much. Very Happy :heart:
Hmm.
Badger wrote: We therefore reserve the right to assume copyright on user contributions submitted, this includes, but is not limited to the Forums, Articles, Recipe Book, How To.. and other sections of the website.
Still gives "we" the option to stamp a copyright label on someone's post and thereby prevent them from publishing it elsewhere.

Not for one second suggesting that "we" might be inclined to do that, but perhaps a slight adjustment might be considered?

And have you actually defined who "we" is?

I'm sure you all know I'm not trying to cause trouble.
It is a clarification, not a criticism.
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Post by Compostwoman on 9th December 2009, 4:05 pm

Hello Hairyloon...!

If you read what you have quoted, in context with the very next part....

7.01 : However, we will not assume copyright of private or commercial previously copyrighted material including, but not limited to, song lyrics, photographs, articles, recipes or published quotations/speech, unless we are specifically authorized to do so by the original copyright owner - where this ownership is not conferred, copyright remains with the original author.

It is clear enough to me that this forum is NOT going to claim copyright.

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Post by Hairyloon on 9th December 2009, 5:36 pm

compostwoman wrote:If you read what you have quoted, in context with the very next part....
7.01 : However, we will not assume copyright of private or commercial previously copyrighted material...
So it is only guarranteed if you have already put copyright on it
Granted, as I understand, you don't have to actually do anything to claim copyright on your work, but that makes it ambiguous... and ambiguity is what makes lawyers fat.
Or, in the alternative, the statement has no power, and therefore has no purpose
I'm not especially bothered about it myself, but somebody went and wired up my radar to copyright issues...
It is clear enough to me that this forum is NOT going to claim copyright.
Well, I would hope it wouldn't, and I believe that it won't, but that does beg the question of why put it in the T&C that it might? :?

[P.S. Can I suggest that, once this little debate is finished, these posts should be deleted?]
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Post by Adrian on 9th December 2009, 5:41 pm

Hairyloon wrote:
Still gives "we" the option to stamp a copyright label on someone's post and thereby prevent them from publishing it elsewhere.

Not for one second suggesting that "we" might be inclined to do that, but perhaps a slight adjustment might be considered?

The copyright label is there to prevent people coming onto this site and stealing content. It is there to protect the users who choose to contribute their previously written and made material. AS CW pointed out "we" have no interst in claiming copyright on peoples work - past, present or future (unlike a certain un-named forum)

Hairyloon wrote:And have you actually defined who "we" is?

I'm sure you all know I'm not trying to cause trouble.
It is a clarification, not a criticism.

We is me - the bloke who set up the forum, spent the time putting it all together, takes the time to run it and owns the domain and my partner, the bloke who pays the bills.

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Post by Compostwoman on 9th December 2009, 6:12 pm

Having been the person who alerted HL to this issue "elsewhere" I can understand his asking the questions...but be assured HL, I wouldn't post on here if I wasn't totally happy it wasn't going to happen again....

I have no desire ever again to spend 2 and a half plus years of my life, and 10, 000 plus posts...with all the time and effort involved....just to have them get deleted again... Evil or Very Mad because I wouldn't agree to handing over my copyright to them.

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Post by Hairyloon on 9th December 2009, 10:36 pm

Badger wrote:The copyright label is there to prevent people coming onto this site and stealing content. It is there to protect the users who choose to contribute their previously written and made material.
I had assumed something like that to be the motives behind it, and with that assumption, I just felt it could be better put. I'm not sure it is strictly necessary, as I believes the law assumes copyright, but I agree it is better to make that clear.
Just off the top of my head:
"Content of this forum is copyrighted, and should not be reproduced without the permission of the Author or the forum management."
As I've said, I'm not particularly bothered, I can just see the potential for problems.
We is me - the bloke who set up the forum, spent the time putting it all together, takes the time to run it and owns the domain and my partner, the bloke who pays the bills.
You sound a little defensive. I was only asking, you should be used to me by now. Wink
But there was as serious point: I was expecting "we" to be the organisation that runs the forum (which of course it is) and that should be defined somewhere (not who, but what). Doesn't matter while the forum is small, but it might become important when it gets big.
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Post by RuthG on 21st September 2011, 11:12 pm

Hi, just joined the other day and thought I would read the rules before posting. They seem a very fair and comprehensive set of rules, but I can understand the dilemma with the copyright issue. It sounds like unless the material is copyright already (ie a quote from a published book etc) then the site claims copyright over the material posted herein - have I got that right? In other words, if Badger wanted to write a book using the tips and comments on this forum, he could do so?

BTW, throughout the rules, you have referred to the site as 'Handmade', yet the title of the forum is 'Homemade'.
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Post by Adrian on 21st September 2011, 11:29 pm

RuthG wrote:Hi, just joined the other day and thought I would read the rules before posting. They seem a very fair and comprehensive set of rules, but I can understand the dilemma with the copyright issue. It sounds like unless the material is copyright already (ie a quote from a published book etc) then the site claims copyright over the material posted herein - have I got that right? In other words, if Badger wanted to write a book using the tips and comments on this forum, he could do so?

BTW, throughout the rules, you have referred to the site as 'Handmade', yet the title of the forum is 'Homemade'.

Blimey, I haven't looked at the rules in yonks. Yes, the forum used to be Handmade Life, before I decided that Homemade life sounded better. I really should change that sometime.

I suppose I could write a book, but I'm not going to, my life is way too busy and quite frankly I lack the talent.

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