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Post by Adrian on 6th March 2010, 2:47 pm

I am very excited to share with you that Mike abbot has kindly given me permission to share his design for his shave horse, this is a distillation of other designs Mike has used over the 30 years of his work in green wood bodging. As you may or may not know, Mike Abbott is credited with the single handed revival of green wood working in the UK and is pretty much the definitive article when it comes to craft.



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Making
Champion the Lumber Horse


Materials

  • Four 8ft (240cm) lengths of 4” x 2” (100 x 50mm) softwood
  • A 50cm length of 2” x 1” batten for the footrest
  • A straight wooden rod, dowel, or turned pin about ¾” (20mm) diameter for a pivot
  • About forty 90mm heavy screws (ideally turbo coach screws, available from Screwfix) or nails
Tools needed

  • Handsaw
  • Tape measure
  • Pencil
  • 25mm drill bit in a brace, a bar auger, or a drill press
  • Powerful cordless drill with 6mm hexnut driver or screwdriver head (or hammer)


Saw the beams to length (given in cm)

Bed
x 2


120

120









240

Arm
x 2, front leg,


80

80

80







240

Seat
x 3, platform x 2, rear spacer


40

40

40

50

50

20

240

Back
legs x 2, leg brace, top bar, riser


55

55

60

30

40



240

Pre-drill the large holes

You are going to need several 25mm (1”) holes in the platform and arms of the horse. You could fairly easily drill these when the horse has been assembled but you may find it easier to drill them before assembly. In which case start by drilling at least two holes in each half of the platform and three in each arm as illustrated.

Assemble the main body

Start by assembling the main body with the front leg and the platform. Then add the seat and the back legs. Make the frame and fit it over the completed body. Take care that the screws (or nails) are not right at the end of any components, as they would be likely to split the wood.


  • Fix one section of the main body to the front leg, the central riser and the back spacer, using just one screw at each joint.
  • Fix one of the platform sections to the tops of the front leg and the riser so that it is about parallel with the body section
  • Turn the whole assembly over and lay it down with the riser about square to the bed and with the front leg sloping.
  • Fix the other sides of the body and the platform with a couple of screws at each joint.
  • Stand the horse on its front leg and prop up the back end so that the bed is about horizontal
  • Fix the seat components to the back of the body
  • Fix the leg brace to the rear spacer tight up against the underside of the body
  • Fix the legs to the back of the seat and to the leg brace with the tops of the
    legs just protruding above the seat.

Assemble and fit the arms

  • Screw the top bar to the arms as shown, so that the resulting frame will fit over the horses body. The footrest could be another 50cm length of 4" x 2", a strong length of 2"x1" or anything in between and should be screwed onto the bottom of the arms as shown.
  • Lift up the front of the horse and slide the arms into place and pivot them with a short hazel rod, a length of dowelling, a length of broom-handle or a specially made 21mm (7/8") wooden pin. This pin works best if it is tapered at one end to make it easier to poke in when adjusting the gap.
Notes

  • Alternatively you could pivot the arms with a metal pin, in which case the holes in the
    platform and the arms could be smaller than 25mm.

  • If you need to dissemble the horse, the rear leg assembly is easily removed by simply removing the three screws holding the tops of the legs to the seat and the leg brace to the rear spacer.
  • You could trim the angles off the tops and bottoms of the legs but the tops of the back legs can be very handy as a bench-stop when the horse is in use.

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Post by Robin Wood on 7th March 2010, 3:03 pm

Badger wrote: Mike Abbott is credited with the single handed revival of green wood working in the UK

I know a few that would question that, Mike's book has certainly popularised green woodwork but the revival was well under way before the book came out and there were plenty of other folk demonstrating and teaching too.

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Post by Adrian on 7th March 2010, 3:33 pm

Ah

I did actually wonder about that when I read it. I must stress that Mike has never claimed that, it has been claimed on his behalf

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Post by Guest on 9th March 2010, 4:08 pm

Good design if you are using machine cut wood. The one in his book is for "real" lumps of wood. Ours (made from the book design) is primarily half an oak bough which has a wonderful shape to sit on...and weights a ton!

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Post by Compostwoman on 9th March 2010, 6:04 pm

I have just started making one from an assortment of wood. I will photograph as I go and do a post at the end...but I wouldn't hold your breath!

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Post by Guest on 9th March 2010, 6:08 pm

Don't forget to make it very sturdy! You do pull quite hard on the wood and push equally against it with your feet.

ps The name of our shaving horse is "Foam" Very Happy

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Post by Adrian on 9th March 2010, 6:14 pm

I have a load of 2x4 sat in the barn, my lumber horse will be added to my (very long) project list - but good news is I now have a very good antique drawknife on its way, so will be able to start practicing.

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Post by Compostwoman on 9th March 2010, 6:16 pm

Zoe wrote:Don't forget to make it very sturdy! You do pull quite hard on the wood and push equally against it with your feet.

ps The name of our shaving horse is "Foam" Very Happy

I know

I normally use some up in some wonderful ancient woodlands about 10 miles away....

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Post by Guest on 11th March 2010, 7:48 pm

Here's our shaving horse. 5 years old now. Called "Foam"!





Note the 3 holes in the arms for the pivot pin. This allows the gripping of different sizes of wood.

(That's the pole lathe behind too!)

When visiting the restored historic houses in the Black Forest, Germany we noted every house had a shaving horse. Everyone really should have such a useful friend! It makes a good seat even when you are not working too.

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Post by Compostwoman on 11th March 2010, 8:02 pm

That is lovely Zoe! I am going to try to make a green one...as we are in the middle of felling time for us so it makes sense to use that rather than lumber...

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Post by Guest on 12th March 2010, 2:03 pm

Hi Everyone,
I thought it might be useful for you to know which types of wood I used on "Foam". (whilst Zoe has an afternoon napp on the sofa :sleep: )
The body, block & peg are oak, the legs hazel, arms & pivot ash, the foot bar & clamping bar cherry and the work board birch.
The body was cleft. the leg holes are made with a 2" auger.
If you need any other info please ask.

PS where did the blue ball thing come from??? Shocked :affraid:


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Post by Compostwoman on 12th March 2010, 2:04 pm

Hello Wood Troll, I am guessing you are Zoe's OH?

I am today sizing up wood from the wood to make one like yours...so any extra info wood be great...

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Post by Adrian on 12th March 2010, 6:55 pm

Wood Troll wrote:
PS where did the blue ball thing come from??? Shocked :affraid:

Its a default avatar for new members, please feel free to choose a new one from the avatar galleries or uploads your own Very Happy

welcome btw

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Post by Guest on 12th March 2010, 9:24 pm

I jumped up and down on that blue thingy and it went away! :bounce:
Now back to serious business...
Have you cut that wood yet compostwoman?
I would recommend ash for the arms as they needs to be very strong.
Ah and the conundrum... which came first, the pole lathe or the shaving horse? Answers on a postcard...


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Post by Compostwoman on 12th March 2010, 10:41 pm

Oh yes WT, have lots of Ash, Hazel. Oak, Hornbeam, Cherry and some Acacia, cut in thelast few days....

have diverted lots of suitable wood from the woodburner stack...some for spoons, some for various carving and some for a shave horse.....

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Post by Bardster on 13th March 2010, 6:21 pm

I built one of these today to mikes design. Four lengths of timber and 30 bolts later I have a lumber horse! Cost of materials about £30, time taken about six hours. Few mistakes on the way but nothing critical, just a few extra holes here and there hehehe. Now tired but a huge sense of accomplishment. Taking up the farm tomorrow to show it off and give it a try out.
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Post by Adrian on 13th March 2010, 6:53 pm

The lumber is in the Barn waiting for my attention, but finding time to do it is quite another thing. Maybe when my drawknife arrives, I will be shamed into building it...

Got any photos Bardster?

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Post by Bardster on 13th March 2010, 7:04 pm

no, the light was fading as i finished. I'll take some tomorrow at the farm.
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Post by Compostwoman on 13th March 2010, 8:32 pm

We have been clearing a clearing today and felling trees ..tomorrow the trees we are felling look ideal to make a shave horse so I may be doing a green version next week.....

some lovely straight timber there...so I have fought CM over burning it inside and earmarked some for benches, a horse and varioous craft things...

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Post by Compostwoman on 13th March 2010, 8:32 pm

Bardster was 6 hours solid work to make the horse?...is that about what it would take if you had all the kit on hand?

and I would love to see a picture or several as well!

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Post by Guest on 14th March 2010, 1:39 pm

Sounds great Bardster :cheers:
What type of wood did you use?

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Post by Bardster on 14th March 2010, 9:52 pm

Compostwoman wrote:Bardster was 6 hours solid work to make the horse?...is that about what it would take if you had all the kit on hand?

and I would love to see a picture or several as well!

Zoe, the wood was pine 2x4's bought from B&Q

It was pretty much solid work yeah, Though I forgot that I wasted an hour or so turning the workshop upside down looking for my 1" auger, couldn't find it in the end so used a smaller one and a metal pin rather than a wooden one. I was pilot drilling every hole on the pillar drill and in retrospect the pilot hole should have been a tad larger as almost burnt out the power drill driving the large screw bolts in. I was also taking my time to make sure I got it right. So I suppose about 4 to 5 hours would be realistic. All the wood was hand cut to size and then i marked where all the bolts were to go and pre drilled them. This is what took the most time I think.

Anyways here's a couple of pics.

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Post by MrsC on 15th March 2010, 8:29 am

Looking good there Bardster!

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This was my birthday present from CM...

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