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Post by Guest on 3rd August 2010, 10:43 am

Not sure if thsi is the right place but I have this beautifully made beech rocking chair - all the pieces were crpented to fit into each other without glue! - and it's falling apart because I left it outside. I'd like to put it back together but may need help ... any offers?

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Post by Aberlemno on 3rd August 2010, 12:48 pm

If you have a photo of the state it is in, perhaps my OH could advise as he restores furniture? from Aberlemno in deepest Carmarthenshire.

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Post by Guest on 3rd August 2010, 2:20 pm

Chuckle ... both sun and rain! It's not Ercol but handmade by Polish chap in London about 20 yrs back, of beech wood. It could be glued but the way he seems to have shaped the pieces suggests this unnecessary.


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Post by Guest on 3rd August 2010, 2:31 pm

Will attempt picture ...

Aberlemno, Caer Myrddyn is a place I always want to vist and keep not getting there . Will put pic up - when I work out how to do it! - so OH can get an idea of decreptitude.

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Post by Aberlemno on 3rd August 2010, 4:36 pm

I'll look forward to photo then Elen - you would LOVE Caer Myrddyn as a county, but the county town has emerged as a mini-Swansea in recent years and not the lovely quiet old market town it was when we arrived over 20 yrs ago.

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Post by Dandelion on 3rd August 2010, 5:35 pm

Elen Sentier wrote:Will attempt picture ...

Aberlemno, Caer Myrddyn is a place I always want to vist and keep not getting there . Will put pic up - when I work out how to do it! - so OH can get an idea of decreptitude.

Good instructions for putting a picture in post if you look at the Suggestions and Questions section, then find the 'putting a picture in a post' thread page three, penultimate post from Badger. I can't do it without going back to this set of instructions!
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Post by Guest on 3rd August 2010, 6:58 pm

Ha! forum not up to direct posting, I have faff about with flikr - bother!





Arrrghh! That was painful! However, yere is poor wretched chair ...

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Post by WoodTrol on 4th August 2010, 3:57 pm

Hi Elen,
That looks like a glue job to me from the photos.

I would suggest the following plan of action....
1. The first thing you have to do is take it completely apart (number them and make a sketch if you think you might forget where they are in the seat) and lightly sand everything to remove dirt and stains.
2. Put it together without glue to ensure everything fits and is still there.
3. Stop have a cup ot tea and think in what order you should put it together again when you are gluing. Have you got enough clamps to do the job? You will have to do it in stages over several days.
4. Glue the seat together (leaving 24 hours between gluings) being careful to clamp everything up for tight joints. Always put a piece of scrap wood between the clamp and the workpiece to avoid leaving marks. When gluing up be careful not to smear excess glue around the outside of the joint, it will stop the wood absorbing any wood treatment evenly and give unsightly patches.
5. Scrape off any blobs of glue that ouzed out of the joints with a sharp chisel. Give a light sanding with a fine sandpaper and apply a coating of your choice (my prefered coating is linseed and bees wax).

Thats about all you have to do. Don't hurry, take your time and do a good job. If there are any question fire away. :bigsmile:
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Post by Guest on 4th August 2010, 7:04 pm

Hey that sounds really useful! Thank you. I love the bit where I stop and have some tea . Will have a go and (hopefully) send back pix of mended chair ... which will then live INDOORS

If I get stuck I'll come back to you ...why do I say "if" ???

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Post by Guest on 4th August 2010, 7:05 pm

Aha! I'm back already ... what sort of glue ?

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Post by Compostwoman on 5th August 2010, 12:03 am

Elen I have every confidence you can mend this wonderful wooden work of art

I have a greenwood chair made from wood, from my wood, by a friend, she gifted it to me when she moved and I love it. It is my storytelling chair.

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Post by Hairyloon on 5th August 2010, 1:02 am

Elen Sentier wrote:Aha! I'm back already ... what sort of glue ?
Wood glue?
Traditionally cascamite is supposed to be the badger's nadgers.

If you're short of clamps, you may be able to hold parts of it together with a Spanish windlass: put a loop of rope around them and wind it tight with a stick.
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Post by Aberlemno on 5th August 2010, 7:34 am

My OH says if it's been out in all weathers for years like that, the wood will need feeding. It will need rubbing down a little with very fine sandpaper and then 0000 guage wire wool. Then apply raw linseed oil - two or three coats - and let it soak in for 2 or 3 weeks before you even think of polishing it. It will probably still end up on the light side, colourwise, because it has been so bleached by the sun and weather. Good luck.

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Post by Chilli-head on 5th August 2010, 10:21 am

Hairyloon wrote:
Traditionally cascamite is supposed to be the badger's nadgers.

Very traditionally - glue made from fish or animal bones. I have used it when veneering a chess table, but I don't plan to repeat it.

If you think you might leave it out in the rain again by accident, I'd go with HL's suggestion. PVA is a more convenient option if it will not get wet again. The newfangled alternative is polyurethane, comes in a gunk gun cartridge, sets in 5 minutes, waterproof. Water from the air triggers the setting, so the tube will set solid quite quckly after opening.

Edited to add: Thinking about it, given the chair's history, various bits may have warped a bit and it might take some time fiddling with clamps to get it together and looking straight - a 5 minute setting time is probably not what you need !
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Post by WoodTrol on 5th August 2010, 2:18 pm

I would recommend the normal DIY wood glue which is PVA as you do say you will keep it indoors. As long as the air temperature is not very hot you have sufficient time to move things around. I would still leave it clamped for 24hrs as this ensures that the glue has completely gone off.

Cascamite is effective but not easy to use. You have to mix it and it has health hazards associated with it as it is made with urea formaldehyde (although there are probably modern versions available.)

Don't linseed anything until after everything is well and truely glued as the glue will not take once it is oiled.

A further point is, when you glue the seat boards together you have to ensure that the pieces do not bow whilst they are being clamped. One way to prevent this is to have planks clamped lightly above and below the seat keeping flat.

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Post by Guest on 5th August 2010, 7:23 pm

COO err! I gonna have to study all this, but a second read says it's all doable. Tamuchley folk, much. appreciated. Idea

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